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Did first run in second gear and the second and third run in third gear.

My best run was in third gear (obviously):
164hp/158tq

I think its either on par or a little lower then its supposed to be.
I have the following performance mods:
-CLS cams
-Comptech headers
-Magnaflow catback
-stock intake with no resonators
-Thermoblock spacers
-Mugen cooling mods
-NGK Iridium plugs (one heat range cooler)
-Neo Synthetic Oil 5-30 (motor and ATF)
-tranny cooler

Seems like torque is pretty good for an untuned car up to 5400rpm then it starts to take a dive.

I'll try and get a pic of the graph up soon, but I'm still waiting on the email from the dyno guy since they didn't know how to save it to a floppy since the dyno guy wasn't there.

edit: heres a pic of my dyno


Blue: 2nd gear, wanted the whole rpm range but they mesed up :rolleye2:
Everything else is third gear, the third run we actually used a fan on the car.
 

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I don't know much about 6th gen but yeah it seems low to me as well. I thought cls cam gives pretty decent power on the 6th gen v6. I mean... your number is very close to mine and I have I4 :eek: Which dynometer was it?
 

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Yeah it was a dynojet SAE corrected and all

The curves are pretty straight.

I got my car dynoed at the same place as Siggy its called

Hook-Ups Import Tex
8455 Loma Pl. Upland CA 91786
909-373-RACE

I asked Khan about it and he thought it wwas also low but the torque was alright but as I mentioned the torque dropped off at 5400rpms maybe tuning makes a big difference?
 

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man.. tranny must really suck.. :(

my stock inline 4 lude can pull those numbers.. torque is nearly similar as well between I4 and V6..
 

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Accord_V6_400m said:
Not sure how much tuning I should even attempt since I'll be supercharging the car soon, hopefully the numbers are low because of the lack of tuning and the fact that I don't have a "real" intake.
If you're gonna get a blower, don't even waste your money tuning right now.

The cams are probably playing the biggest part in power band characteristics when it comes to interacting with all your other modifications. I find it still questionable whether the cams do good or bad in the lower rpms with the whole "opening both intake valves rather than the one below vtec" since honda delibrately did this to promote intake velocity as well as swirl mixture formation rather than overall air volume/flow for lower rpm power for the j30a1's heads/manifold characteristics . Never truly seen a before/after dyno with just camshafts. Your stock intake isn't probably restricting power in the lower rpms, but it could be in the higher rpms, coupled with the added capacity for airflow with the camshafts/headers/exhaust, which might explain the peak torque production dropping relatively lower than the normal 5700/5800 rpms. Go to an expert for this.

Make sure your plugs aren't fouling as well since you're delibrately at a lower heat range, which I assume you're planning for the blower, but probably isn't great for Naturally aspirated power production.
 

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-=SoCalV6=- said:
If you're gonna get a blower, don't even waste your money tuning right now.

The cams are probably playing the biggest part in power band characteristics when it comes to interacting with all your other modifications. I find it still questionable whether the cams do good or bad in the lower rpms with the whole "opening both intake valves rather than the one below vtec" since honda delibrately did this to promote intake velocity as well as swirl mixture formation rather than overall air volume/flow for lower rpm power for the j30a1's heads/manifold characteristics . Never truly seen a before/after dyno with just camshafts. Your stock intake isn't probably restricting power in the lower rpms, but it could be in the higher rpms, coupled with the added capacity for airflow with the camshafts/headers/exhaust, which might explain the peak torque production dropping relatively lower than the normal 5700/5800 rpms. Go to an expert for this.

Make sure your plugs aren't fouling as well since you're delibrately at a lower heat range, which I assume you're planning for the blower, but probably isn't great for Naturally aspirated power production.
I'm pretty sure the VTEC system goes unchanged by changing the cams its just the lift and duration that changes a bit.

As for the stock intake it isn't that restrictive its probably just the filter since the intake system as I have it right now doesn't have any resonators.

I'll check the plugs and also clean out my fuel injectors since I still have a loud tickign sound coming possibly from them.
 

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Accord_V6_400m said:
I'm pretty sure the VTEC system goes unchanged by changing the cams its just the lift and duration that changes a bit.

As for the stock intake it isn't that restrictive its probably just the filter since the intake system as I have it right now doesn't have any resonators.

I'll check the plugs and also clean out my fuel injectors since I still have a loud tickign sound coming possibly from them.
Err, I didn't mean the VTEC engagement get's changed in regards to rpm. Rather, on the Av6 camshafts, there's only one prominent intake lobe below vtec, therefore only one valve gets opened, the other I believe either gets cracked open or doesn't open at all, can't remember. The CL-S cams, however, allow both intake valves to open due to both lobes being prominent lobes, therefore airflow/intake velocity characteristics below vtec will definitely be altered due to the fact that you're introducing something that wasn't intended for the rest of the engine components (they were tuned for the stock camshafts).

As for the stock airbox, your call...

Jun's dynos
 

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short ram had great top-end.. but all around powerband wise, CAI owns all.

what exactly was this "modified stock airbox"? without resonator? k&N filter drop-in?
 

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Yeah I tried calling the shop and no one is there. I'll try calling them tomorrow and ask them if they can email me my dyno since the guy whon knew how could not.

My intake right now is just the stock tubing with a paper filter but the first resonator is removed and the second one between the TB and icebox is plugged up so the air just passes over it.

I used to have the KN drop in until I sold it in anticipation of my supercharger.
 
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