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Official 7th Gen TSB and Recall Discussion Thread

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#1 · (Edited)
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0406/30/autos-199589.htm

Honda Motor Co. is widening a recall of vehicles in the U.S. and Canada to 1.14 million units, among its largest, covering Accord and Acura cars that have the same transmission fault that triggered a light-truck recall this year.

Japan’s third-largest automaker is voluntarily recalling 536,950 vehicles, with V-6 engines and 5-speed automatic transmissions, in addition to those already announced in April. The company is also recalling 79,531 units in Japan to fix faulty transmissions and fuel tanks, starting tomorrow.

The inspections and repairs will cost Honda about $63 million, in addition to the $153 million being spent on the light- truck portion of the recall, spokesman Andy Boyd said. In Japan, Honda is spending about $8.5 million on its recall.

Honda was runner-up to Toyota Motor Co.p. in an annual reliability study of three-year-old cars and trucks by J.D. Power & Associates in the U.S. Honda, Toyota and Nissan Motor Co., benefited from consumer perceptions that they build better vehicles to increase their U.S. market share to 24.1 percent last year from 22.2 percent, according to Autodata Corp.

Honda’s North American recall includes 2003- and 2004-model Accords, 2000- through early 2004-model Acura TL sedans, and 2001- through 2003-model Acura CLs, Boyd said. In April, the company recalled 600,000 U.S. and Canadian Odyssey minivans, and Pilot and Acura MDX sport-utility vehicles with the same transmission.

Shares of Honda, which ranks fifth in U.S. sales, fell 0.6 percent to 5,260 yen in Tokyo.

Japanese Recall

The Japanese recall covers 68,000 vehicles with gearbox defects, including Odyssey and Lagreat minivans. The Tokyo-based carmaker will also take back 11,531 Inspire sedans with faulty fuel pumps, spokesman Kazuhiro Suda said. There have been no accidents reported in Japan, the company said in a statement.

The problem results from insufficient lubrication of a transmission shaft that can overheat, potentially damaging gear teeth or causing the gears to break, Honda said in a statement.

The U.S. unit of Tokyo-based Honda has had only one reported incident of a transmission failing in the car models recalled and no reported accidents or injuries, Boyd said.

“We are acting out of an abundance of caution to ensure that this doesn’t become an issue for our customers,” Tom Elliot, Honda’s U.S. executive vice president, said in a statement. Customers will be notified by letter starting mid-July.

In most cases, the gears will be inspected and the flow of transmission fluid will be modified, Honda said. If damage from insufficient lubrication is found, the transmission will be replaced, the company said. Recall repairs typically are paid for out of reserves set aside for that purpose.

The Accord is Honda’s best-selling model, with annual sales in the U.S. and Canada exceeding 400,000.

Covers 7th gen V6 auto's :( :(
 
#28 ·
So if i buy an AV6 coupe from a non honda certified dealer, will i be a part of the recall?? This might just turn things around for me about the Accord as being the next possible car.
 
#29 ·
abram2001 said:
the "oil jet kit" looks nothing more than atf hoses/tubes that re-route or channel the atf fluid differantly :gotme: kinda pathetic if you ask me, how exactly will the ensure the proper gears are being lubed? it doesnt really. The speed countershaft hole is supposed to spray atf on the top of the gears and expect the s*it to work? I hope they thought this through. :rolleyes:
:gotme: :confused:


looks like a major kluge job
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#30 ·
A note on Owner Link

Just wanted to mention after reading mtnagel's post about owner link...
After hearing about the recall today, I checked owner link and it reported no recalls on my car. I even called the dealership and they said there was no recall for my car. So then I called Honda Customer Service and they confirmed that my car is one of the vehicles affected, and instructed me to wait for the letter to arrive, and then schedule an appointment with the dealership.
So, it seems at this point that owner link is not reliable for finding out whether or not you're involved in the recall (and perhaps not even your dealership as mine wasn't) - I'd give Honda a call w/ your VIN# to be sure if you really need to know right now.
 
#31 ·
I'd assume pretty much all 03 AV6 autos, and up to the currently built 04's. Ownerlink probably just isn't up to date yet. Give it a week or so.
 
#32 ·
Re: A note on Owner Link

jappchae said:
Just wanted to mention after reading mtnagel's post about owner link...
After hearing about the recall today, I checked owner link and it reported no recalls on my car. I even called the dealership and they said there was no recall for my car. So then I called Honda Customer Service and they confirmed that my car is one of the vehicles affected, and instructed me to wait for the letter to arrive, and then schedule an appointment with the dealership.
So, it seems at this point that owner link is not reliable for finding out whether or not you're involved in the recall (and perhaps not even your dealership as mine wasn't) - I'd give Honda a call w/ your VIN# to be sure if you really need to know right now.
Just wonderful. Thanks for letting me know.

Matt
 
#41 ·
I would not buy another v6 Auto from Honda to save my life. My next car will be either a Nissan or Toyota as much as I hate to say that...Love nissan, but hate 'Yota styling
 
#43 ·
Actually, I'm pretty sure that the 4-cyl 5AT is based on the one from the RSX (both K-series engines) and that the V6 one is different (J-series, 3 cyl per bank vs 4 in the K). So 4-banger guys might not need to worry.
 
#44 ·
Has anybody's tranny actually been acting funny? Mine seems perfectly fine and smooth. Maybe we should be thankful Honda isn't waiting until they actually fail this time.
Yes, there were people reporting tranny problem on this forum already. Not just one, if i remember correctly, there was at least two. I believe both received replacement tranny from Honda.
 
#46 ·
that sucks....

they should make it so that the people under the recall can opt for a manual transmission.

Maybe just pay for the additional connectors that's needed. After all they are already removing the tranny.

I know not everyone wants to drive a manual.
And this post was not meant to be stupid, but some of you guys that came from 6th gen auto tranny hell and are now in 7th gen auto tranny land- I would say I am tired of this sh1t and ask them to put in a manual instead.
 
#51 ·
Has anybody's tranny actually been acting funny? Mine seems perfectly fine and smooth. Maybe we should be thankful Honda isn't waiting until they actually fail this time.
Yeah, mine failed back in March with 31.5k miles. Dealer never actually told me what was wrong, just the the computer was reporting several transmission error codes.

Happened all in the span of one day. Was perfectly fine driving to work in the morning, then the tranny sorta missed a gear while accelerating and it dropped out of gear to a neutral state. Did that a couple more times getting to work, but "popped" back into gear within a few seconds. On the way home, it pretty much crapped out. Started shifting "hard", then totally went while shifting from 3rd to 4th on the highway resulting in check engine light finally coming on. Got towed to the local Honda dealer, and they replaced it pretty much no questions asked.