bought these bad boys for $650!!! aint cheap as they are rated #2 on tire rack with a freakin tread life of 400 somn. crazy all season ULTRA high performance tires. i thought i would be needing good tires on my old rims but i was wrong as i bought somn 18's a week later not cool guys and i will sell these for $575 OBO pick up socal!!! i freakin have rims on them too if u want. check em out on my car pic link below there ONE pic of them at night. BTW call around and see how much these tires are... discount tires and everywhere else says $682. I came up on that price right there.