Accord V6 Forum banner

1 - 20 of 54 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
189 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
the GT model uses the same 3.5L as in the chevy Malibu, [email protected], 220 lb-ft torque @ 3200rpm.

the base G6 uses 3.05 axle ratio and the GT uses 3.29

now im wondering just how much faster the GT will be, it uses the same automatic as the Malibu i think...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
175 Posts
itll probly run 15.3... decent but nothing special.

a malibu runs 15.6 or so so figure a handful of tenths for gearing..
 

·
J30A1 => J30A5 => K24Z3
Joined
·
4,271 Posts
^ Yea :) I wish I was in her audience that day.

These are the numbers I got for the G6 in CarTest:

G6 V6 - [email protected] 2.35 60' time
G6 GT - [email protected] 2.34 60' time

The difference will probably be a little bit greater in the real world since the GT comes with wider, grippier tires for better traction. The GT traps lower than the base model because of the shorter gearing. Whereas the base model can finish the quarter-mile in 2nd gear, the GT has to upshift to 3rd before the finish line, which slows it down a little.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
175 Posts
yeh 6 speed and 3.9 will be a BIG help on those cars..

also, cartest is nice (how do i get it btw??) but ive already seen that the malibus can run faster than 15.77 stock.. but weight differences in the g6 and the malibu i have no idea.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14,633 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
175 Posts
yeh but did you hear what ELSE happened??? oprah picked every single one of those people because they didnt have a car, needed one, and couldnt afford one, right???

so the IRS comes in and says well why dont we just tax these people who couldnt afford to buy a car in the first place 7000 bucks for getting a nice gift!! no joke, the IRS are a bunch of ****heads. i still havent heard how its gonna be handled but i mean comeon, fining a bunch of poor people 7000 dollars a piece because they got a lucky break is ****ING STUPID AND ASSININE.

i heard another line recently that comes to mind:
' thats like giving the death sentence to attempted suicides!'
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
189 Posts
Discussion Starter #11
KittATL said:

wow thatd be a headache... having to keep all those bills... whewwww

but that 7k is a ripoff... however... they could just pull a 7k loan, sell the car for some nice $$ (they are kinda hard to find now...) and pay off said loan and still make out with 10K or so....

or, they could take out a long loan on 7k and that could be their "car payment"

there are a bunch of ways it can work for these people.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
175 Posts
if you dont have enough money to buy ANY car you are unlikely to get ANY loan imo unless its at like 40%.

i dont like the fairtax solution, im more for an income tax as a straight percentage of income with no exceptions, exactly the same system for ALL business, and doing 90% of the enforcement where it matters: rich people who would cheat the government out of millions with the creative ways in which they amass money.

and frankly the IRS spending even 10% of its time trying to screw people like oprahs poor audience is too much, imo.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14,633 Posts
Vigo said:
yeh but did you hear what ELSE happened??? oprah picked every single one of those people because they didnt have a car, needed one, and couldnt afford one, right???

so the IRS comes in and says well why dont we just tax these people who couldnt afford to buy a car in the first place 7000 bucks for getting a nice gift!! no joke, the IRS are a bunch of ****heads. i still havent heard how its gonna be handled but i mean comeon, fining a bunch of poor people 7000 dollars a piece because they got a lucky break is ****ING STUPID AND ASSININE.

i heard another line recently that comes to mind:
' thats like giving the death sentence to attempted suicides!'
Thats messed up :angry: .
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
144 Posts
car = capital gain... It's not really any different than winning the lottery, interest in your bank account, or making money in the stock market. The IRS is not singling them out. If I couldn't afford the tax bill, I'd just sell the car, pay the taxes, & pocket the rest. I would still have more than I started with. What they should have done was give those people a bunch of cash on top to cover the taxes so they could keep the cars.

A consumption tax or sales tax (www.fairtax.org) is good if you're rich, bad if you're poor, it's not like they change the price of bread, milk, etc. depending on your income, so it ends up that poor people pay more as a percentage of their income than a rich person would = a regressive tax. Those people who are just above the (artifically set) poverty line are simply screwed.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
163 Posts
cforez said:
A consumption tax or sales tax (www.fairtax.org) is good if you're rich, bad if you're poor, it's not like they change the price of bread, milk, etc. depending on your income, so it ends up that poor people pay more as a percentage of their income than a rich person would = a regressive tax. Those people who are just above the (artifically set) poverty line are simply screwed.
Read the fairtax plan further and you'll see that no one considered "poor" would net any tax since everyone will get a rebate on all taxes on necessities up to the poverty level.

And embedded taxes will no longer exist. Companies take thier taxes and consider it a cost to goods and services they provide. With the average embedded tax being 20-25% of the price(harvard study on fairtax.org site), competitive pressure will bring the prices down that the taxes used to justify.

Plus you get to keep your whole paycheck from federal witholding. No federal taxes, no FICA, no medicare, etc will be withheld from your check. You will no longer have to report to the IRS each April and neither will your place of employment b/c there would no longer be an IRS to report to.

Thats enough for now but i suggest we stay on the G6 topic. If ya want to continue our discussion lets just make a new thread in this section.

(Atleast its better than the crappy debates going on right now)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
163 Posts
Anyways.....

Im planning on atleast getting the GTP (prob coupe) a year after it comes out. I kinda have a thing where i try not to buy the first year model of anything.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
189 Posts
Discussion Starter #19
JonHsiung said:
^yup. that's why i said i knew it was gonna happen...

i think oprah will cover it if she's nice enough to buy them cars. :) she's a nice lady. (the cars were probably also somewhat-donated at discount by GM)
Yeah actually pontiac Paid for everyhing but the $7K tax, and really its not their responsibility to.

KittATL said:
Anyways.....

Im planning on atleast getting the GTP (prob coupe) a year after it comes out. I kinda have a thing where i try not to buy the first year model of anything.
hum by the year after it might have the 3.9L VVT DoD 3v engine thats rumored to pump out 270hp... :D
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14,633 Posts
OHV said:
hum by the year after it might have the 3.9L VVT DoD 3v engine thats rumored to pump out 270hp... :D
A 3.6L version of that engine comes in the CX5 trim of the new Buick LaCrosse:



The first of a new family of V6 engines to go into production, the LaCrosse CSX 3.6-liter VVT DOHC V6 engine is one of GM's most advanced. Featuring fully variable valve timing for both intake and exhaust, this impressive power plant reduces emissions while providing outstanding fuel economy. (EPA estimated mpg 19 city, 28 hwy.) Variable valve timing also enables this engine to deliver an impressive 240 hp and 225 lb-ft of torque.

I doubt a 3.9L version with DoD would come on the G6 and not the LaCrosse. If anything, the LaCrosse would get the 3.9L version with DoD while the G6 gets the 3.6L version.
 
1 - 20 of 54 Posts
Top