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Hey --

When you go from 16inch wheels to say 18's or 19's...

Do you NEED to get like a whole suspension kit? Like cambers (dont konw what they are, just heard the word being tossed around here), shocks, and springs?


Or can you just lower the car? And by lowering just get springs that drop the car a certain height?

Im curious cuz if you need to get a whole suspension kit and everything, than getting rims is not a cheap mod at all..

I mean prices of rims and tires are expensive in itself still, but than adding the price of a whole suspension setup and etc, is a bit much..

Just curious..

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no you dont need suspension components, ppl just cant stand the look of a nice set of wheels on a stock height car (a 4x4). you can just get springs to lower the car as much as you want, but your stock shocks wont be on par with the new spring height (Tein H-tech springs seems to work with stock, not much of a drop, however, when going lower, the shocks will die much faster). Also with lowering springs, your camber will be off, wheels will tilt and you'll have uneven tire wear. Theres a lot of info on this topic if you're willing to do the research.
 

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yeh i can admit i got lazy and didnt do a search on this question before posting...

so basically just getting rims and lowering the car with springs is setting up for more future maintence expednture, ie, shocks and cambers
 

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yeh i can admit i got lazy and didnt do a search on this question before posting...

so basically just getting rims and lowering the car with springs is setting up for more future maintence expednture, ie, shocks and cambers
Please do the research. The answer to your question is, "it depends."

If you want to get rims and lower the car as simple as possible, you can go with your wheel/tire choice and h-techs. While the H-tech drop is not as aggressive as others, it's not too bad. Also, the spring rate on the h-techs are similar to stock, so stock dampers match well with them. Also, stock ride quality won't be compromised with h-techs.

Rear camber kit is your call. If you want to replace tires every year, then don't get the rear camber kit.

Here are a couple pics of an h-tech drop:



 

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do you have rear camber kit installed?
if you do have a camber kit what brand?
how much do camber kits usually run?

what size rim is that?
how much is the car dropped in the front?
how much is the car dropped in the rear?
how much is the htech springs usually run?

to confirm you didn't not buy new shocks with your springs?

finally is this a DIY or is it best to have a mechanic install camber kit and htech springs?


thanks boss
 

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you in the tri-state area? is this your everyday car?

Do you have any idea running 19" or 18" low profile in the tristate area,
especially during pot hole season? do the research :)

First thing, do the research yourself, then ask the question.
- just don't follow what everyone says.

just don't spill out terms and not know what they are.
If you don't know find out.


habibnazir said:
do you have rear camber kit installed?
if you do have a camber kit what brand?
how much do camber kits usually run?

what size rim is that?
how much is the car dropped in the front?
how much is the car dropped in the rear?
how much is the htech springs usually run?

to confirm you didn't not buy new shocks with your springs?

finally is this a DIY or is it best to have a mechanic install camber kit and htech springs?


thanks boss
 

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yeh well i dont know anything so im asking the people who do for the answers ;)

oh and ive had 17's on is300 and had to replace the tires due to bubbles from pot holes and stock 18's on another car for a while..

but when it comes to upping the size from 16 to 17 with aftermarket equipment idind't know there were was so many other thigns that needed to be cahnged like shocks and camber kit.. so that's why im asking

everyone tells everyone to sarch, even i do it, but sometimes its very tedious task to read through all the posts to find answers sometimes..heck it takes a little while getting used to navigating around these forums and then reading through alll the threads to find out things sometimes

ive been home sick since saturday (hence the post-whoring) but i still haven't found answers to some things so that's why i just resorted to posting a thread!

anyways thanks for the help, ill take it from here on my own

hopefully my next thread in this section will be pics of my new sneakers supporting equipment for it (shocks, springs, and cambers...if i determine i need them)


peace!
 

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Hey if your instered im selling my H&R springs you wont need aftermarket shocks or a camber kit with them 1.5front 1.3rear is the drop you will get from them, they were used for 3500 miles only and are pertty much brand new i bought them for $275 and am selling them for $150 or best offer, let me know they look good with either 18z or 19z.
 

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habibnazir said:
yeh well i dont know anything so im asking the people who do for the answers ;)

oh and ive had 17's on is300 and had to replace the tires due to bubbles from pot holes and stock 18's on another car for a while..

but when it comes to upping the size from 16 to 17 with aftermarket equipment idind't know there were was so many other thigns that needed to be cahnged like shocks and camber kit.. so that's why im asking

everyone tells everyone to sarch, even i do it, but sometimes its very tedious task to read through all the posts to find answers sometimes..heck it takes a little while getting used to navigating around these forums and then reading through alll the threads to find out things sometimes

ive been home sick since saturday (hence the post-whoring) but i still haven't found answers to some things so that's why i just resorted to posting a thread!

anyways thanks for the help, ill take it from here on my own

hopefully my next thread in this section will be pics of my new sneakers supporting equipment for it (shocks, springs, and cambers...if i determine i need them)


peace!
you can increase your size of the rims, here what happens

(new tires + new rims)
it will look like your running 4x4. (assume stock shock + stock springs)

if you don't want to look like 4x4 you need to lower the car. You get new springs to lower it.

if the springs are too stiff.. the stock shocks might blow, your going to need aftermarket shocks.

or go with coilovers - and don't worry about matching springs and shocks.

either way you need to get alignment just to lower the car

if you lower the car say 1.5inch or lower your going to need a camber kit just to fix the alignment.

after that you need to worry about the usually pot holes + bottoming out.

oh btw: you need to worry about offset of the rim so you don't have rubbing.

what else.. *think* just off the top of my head.

when you go bigger rims, you want to keep same the overall diameter of the tire the same, keeping odometer and speedometer changes negligible. Therefore the tire will have a lower profile. The lower the profile the less protection you get when you hit a pot hole thus possible damage the rims.
 

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Deepa said:
Hey if your instered im selling my H&R springs you wont need aftermarket shocks or a camber kit with them 1.5front 1.3rear is the drop you will get from them, they were used for 3500 miles only and are pertty much brand new i bought them for $275 and am selling them for $150 or best offer, let me know they look good with either 18z or 19z.

you got a pm!
 

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do you have rear camber kit installed? Ingalls Rear Kit - You can tell from the pics that I'm running 0 degrees upfront (no camber kit needed) and -.8 in the back (slight tilt)
if you do have a camber kit what brand?
how much do camber kits usually run? $125
what size rim is that? 18's
how much is the car dropped in the front? 1.7
how much is the car dropped in the rear? 1.0
how much is the htech springs usually run? $185 shipped

to confirm you didn't not buy new shocks with your springs? No, stock dampers.

finally is this a DIY or is it best to have a mechanic install camber kit and htech springs? It was a 1st time DIY for me and I did not have any problems. After the install, I had a 4-wheel alignment.


thanks boss
 

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If you go 18's, get 225/40 tires, they're beefy enough for daily driving. If you want a subtle drop, get the HFP drop. It is springs and dampers combined, you get about a 1 inch drop all around. This is a pretty safe setup IMO. And does the trick :)
 

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sweeet yeah im going for

18 x 8.0
5x114.3 lug patter
+43 offset ill show you the pics once the setup is complete!

you think 1 inch drop is enough? i was thinking maybe a lil more than one but not too much? i dunno we'll see!
 

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ace allure
18 x 8
5 x 114.3
43mm offset

wrapped in khumo ecsta supra 712
235/40/18

should be here by middle of next week
 

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Please do the research. The answer to your question is, "it depends."

If you want to get rims and lower the car as simple as possible, you can go with your wheel/tire choice and h-techs. While the H-tech drop is not as aggressive as others, it's not too bad. Also, the spring rate on the h-techs are similar to stock, so stock dampers match well with them. Also, stock ride quality won't be compromised with h-techs.

Rear camber kit is your call. If you want to replace tires every year, then don't get the rear camber kit.

Here are a couple pics of an h-tech drop:




hey what size are the tires on those rims? thanks
 

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damn, that looks low for htech compared to the other pics, or maybe its just the rims filling in the rest. looking good.

any pics of the front?
 
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