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Does the Japanese Honda Inspire Headlights fit our Accords?

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#1 ·
Does anyone know if the Japanese Honda Inspire's headlights fit our Honda Accords? That sh!t is hot! They've got these wild looking HID's....

The video is in Japanese but the visual is inspiring (no pun intended)!
http://www.honda.co.jp/INSPIRE/presentation/p-hid/index.html

I wonder if we can do a group by from Japan or something?
 
#7 ·
APOLLON said:
Better to wait for an aftermarket projector setup (providing it doesn't look crap) because it will be way cheaper, and my new 9006 HID kit will fit. The Inspire headlights are available from Boomplustoys for $854.00. Way too much for housings that our bulbs wouldn't be compatible.
Actually, if you get rid of those re-based 9006 bulbs and get genuine D2R bulbs, I garauntee you that you will have SUCH a better beam pattern with those JDM lights. When you have a reflector that is specifically designed for HID's, nothing can beat the beam pattern.
 
#8 ·
Actually, if you get rid of those re-based 9006 bulbs and get genuine D2R bulbs, I garauntee you that you will have SUCH a better beam pattern with those JDM lights. When you have a reflector that is specifically designed for HID's, nothing can beat the beam pattern.
I wanted the Inspire headlight housings since I purchased my car last summer. However, their price is way too high, and that's coming from someone who just spent $700 on a high-end HID kit...

I'm not certain what you mean by replacing my 'rebased' bulbs with D2R spec bulbs. How can I change the socket where the bulbs inserts to a D2R compatible socket??

HID bulbs are very expensive. I already spent a lot of money recently, and to even think of replacing a set of new bulbs along with the ridiculous expense of the JDM Inspire housings is not very sensible, IMO.
 
#9 · (Edited)
APOLLON said:

I'm not certain what you mean by replacing my 'rebased' bulbs with D2R spec bulbs. How can I change the socket where the bulbs inserts to a D2R compatible socket??

HID bulbs are very expensive. I already spent a lot of money recently, and to even think of replacing a set of new bulbs along with the ridiculous expense of the JDM Inspire housings is not very sensible, IMO.
Your 9006 bulbs are actually d2s bulbs that have been taken off of the d2s socket and stuck onto a halogen 9006 socket. In reality, there's no such thing as a "9006 HID bulb" The nature of a halogen filament and an HID bulb are completely different.

A Halogen bulb works as follows: There's a filament that glows and everywhere surrounding the filament gives off NO light, because the only thing producing the light is the filament itself. This makes engineers design reflectors in cars that focus right on this filament with design specs that are intended for just that filament part to be the sole source of light.

A Xenon arc discharge bulb works as follows: There's a small ball of gas in a tube, which takes roughly 20,000volts to ignite. Once ignited, the ballast then stablizes the gas until the system reaches it's final current consumption of 35watts at 85volts. The nature of this gas is very much like the sun. The core of this glowing ball is the brightest, while it's surroundings progressively give off less and less light.

Now, the reason a "9006" hid bulb stuck into a halogen reflector will give horrible results is mainly because the reflector in there is designed for a light source that is concentrated, ie a halogen filament. Now, you can imagine what happens when you stick in a light source that has a progressive nature to it. GLARE GALORE! You now have a light source in your housing where there shouldn't be. The reflector is not designed for it, therefore light emits where it's not supposed to. This results in a loss of most outputted light in the form of glare.

A true HID reflector is designed to take full advantage of the progressive designed light source, and mathematically reflects the not-so-bright parts of the source as foreground illumination, while focusing the core(brightest) portion of the source as distance light. This results in a very evenly distributed light pattern with minimal glare, both improving your vision and gives ease to the oncoming drivers with less glare distribution.


yeeeeeep.... ;)
 
#10 ·
Actually, if you get rid of those re-based 9006 bulbs and get genuine D2R bulbs, I garauntee you that you will have SUCH a better beam pattern with those JDM lights. When you have a reflector that is specifically designed for HID's, nothing can beat the beam pattern.
Again, how does beam pattern matter when you're on the wrong side of the road?
 
#11 ·
willshire said:
Again, how does beam pattern matter when you're on the wrong side of the road?
There's this thing that people do, it's called 'aiming their headlights properly' sure the flair on the beam maybe go the wrong direction, but nothing a little aiming couldn't fix.....
 
#12 · (Edited)
There's this thing that people do, it's called 'aiming their headlights properly' sure the flair on the beam maybe go the wrong direction, but nothing a little aiming couldn't fix.....
To reaim the flare so that it doesn't shoot into oncoming traffic will result in the right side not shooting further than 10 feet. You try it. You're not aiming in accordance with the bottom step in this case; your flare will be considered the bottom step, and the actually bottom step will be very, very low.
 
#13 ·
willshire said:
To reaim the flare so that it doesn't shoot into oncoming traffic will result in the right side not shooting further than 10 feet. You try it. You're not aiming in accordance with the bottom step in this case; your flare will be considered the bottom step, and the actually bottom step will be very, very low.
If you aim them to the right and then up, you can have the bottem step aimed at the sidewalk, not blinding people, and have the top cut-off at projector height because these hid reflectors have a super sharp cutoff for reflectors. I know it's wrong, but it will still give a better beam than a hid retrofitted halogen setup.
 
#14 ·
If you aim them to the right and then up, you can have the bottem step aimed at the sidewalk, not blinding people, and have the top cut-off at projector height because these hid reflectors have a super sharp cutoff for reflectors. I know it's wrong, but it will still give a better beam than a hid retrofitted halogen setup.
Typically the beam spread with HIDs is sufficiently wide that this horizontal method of adjustment would be negated. Secondly, if the Inspire headlamps are similar to ours, you won't even be able to horizontally adjust them to begin with. Thirdly, with the right side aimed so far down, and with the "super sharp cutoff", you may as well close your eyes when you try to read street signs.
 
#15 ·
Your 9006 bulbs are actually d2s bulbs that have been taken off of the d2s socket and stuck onto a halogen 9006 socket. In reality, there's no such thing as a "9006 HID bulb".


I suspected something like that. Thanks for the confirmation.

A Xenon arc discharge bulb works as follows: There's a small ball of gas in a tube, which takes roughly 20,000volts to ignite. Once ignited, the ballast then stablizes the gas until the system reaches it's final current consumption of 35watts at 85volts. The nature of this gas is very much like the sun. The core of this glowing ball is the brightest, while it's surroundings progressively give off less and less light.
My setup apparently requires 24000V and its dual output, 35W/50W. You have a choice by selecting one of two different color-coded wires to plug into the OEM socket.

Now, the reason a "9006" hid bulb stuck into a halogen reflector will give horrible results is mainly because the reflector in there is designed for a light source that is concentrated, ie a halogen filament. Now, you can imagine what happens when you stick in a light source that has a progressive nature to it. GLARE GALORE! You now have a light source in your housing where there shouldn't be. The reflector is not designed for it, therefore light emits where it's not supposed to. This results in a loss of most outputted light in the form of glare.
Agreed, and it's primarily the reason why I was looking into an alternative housing, and precisely why I purchased a 50W (5000 lumens) output HID kit that I installed. I know the OEM housing is going to produce 'hot spots' and 'cold spots' with the irregular beam pattern. Additionally, the range won't be as great because of the aforementioned large percentage of total light output being produced as glare.

A true HID reflector is designed to take full advantage of the progressive designed light source, and mathematically reflects the not-so-bright parts of the source as foreground illumination, while focusing the core(brightest) portion of the source as distance light. This results in a very evenly distributed light pattern with minimal glare, both improving your vision and gives ease to the oncoming drivers with less glare distribution.
Nevertheless, I was waiting for a green light the other night and beside me was a late model BMW. The light output from my setup was so much greater than his, that it appeared his lights were off...

Back to the topic, despite the many inherent advantages of the Inspire headlight housings, for a similar amount of money I'd rather purchase a set of aftermarket projector retrofits from Illusionlighting. Furthermore, with projectors there will be none of the drawbacks that willshire mentioned. It's only the question of cost, or if you go the DIY route, a question of skill and patience. ;)
 
#16 ·
APOLLON said:

Back to the topic, despite the many inherent advantages of the Inspire headlight housings, for a similar amount of money I'd rather purchase a set of aftermarket projector retrofits from Illusionlighting. Furthermore, with projectors there will be none of the drawbacks that willshire mentioned. It's only the question of cost, or if you go the DIY route, a question of skill and patience. ;)
I agree completely with this. OEM parts are just not worth it, especially JDM parts. Illusionlighting retrofits TRUE hid projectors as well, thus giving you an authentic and LEGAL beam pattern. I'm doing a retrofit myself with Audi S6 ECE projectors into my stock housing.

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#18 ·
APOLLON said:
Beautiful setup and results... I wish I had the time and skill... :(
Thanks man. It's really not that hard. The only problem is sealing them sh¡ts back together. That's where i'm stuck at right now. I don't want condensation ruining all my work.... :( All you need is a dremel, some screws and alot of time and you'll be retrofitting in no time! :D
 
#19 ·
Yes, for the price you paid for inspire headlight.. you could have gotten yourself a true HID projector retrofit with see_fu (illusion ligntening) and still have money left..

remember.. all the shops right now carring inspire headlight doesn't come with HID.. so you will still shell out easily 300 to 500 and no where near the quality of projector!!
 
#21 ·
I have a feeling the Inspire headlights will be on the 2006 USDM model refresh.
Doubt it for several reasons. The Inspire headlights have clear corners (no orange/yellow reflective strip) and the reflectors are made for HID lighting as was mentioned earlier in this thread. Unless the Accord will receive a HID upgrade, I seriously doubt it will happen. I could be wrong but I don't recall if Honda ever used JDM parts for a N. American model refresh either.
 
#22 ·
Well, we're obviously not going to the the JDM lights because A:they're RHD and B:no amber strip. BUT you're probably right about the addition of HID's to the USDM models since even freakin' Pruis's comes with them now!!!!
 
#23 ·
Well, we're obviously not going to the the JDM lights because A:they're RHD and B:no amber strip. BUT you're probably right about the addition of HID's to the USDM models since even freakin' Pruis's comes with them now!!!!
Werd

Also, I think the USDM Camry has a HID option, maybe even the refreshed Altima.. I think HID stock on the Accord is highly unlikely but possible as an option. (and of course even if they do introduce the HID option they wouldn't use the exact headlights from Japan but a similar one with USDM specs. )

:)
 
#24 ·
Werd

I think HID stock on the Accord is highly unlikely but possible as an option. (and of course even if they do introduce the HID option they wouldn't use the exact headlights from Japan but a similar one with USDM specs. )
The periodic refreshes usually involve differently shaped headlights along with other cosmetic changes. The current Inspire headlights, at least externally, are identically shaped to the USDM counterparts. Even the mounts are the same.
 
#26 ·
APOLLON said:
Doubt it for several reasons. The Inspire headlights have clear corners (no orange/yellow reflective strip) and the reflectors are made for HID lighting as was mentioned earlier in this thread. Unless the Accord will receive a HID upgrade, I seriously doubt it will happen. I could be wrong but I don't recall if Honda ever used JDM parts for a N. American model refresh either.
Hmm, good points. For what it's worth, the latest gen Civics got the Ferio taillights for its refresh. The candylike relective taillights replaced the lame diffusion lenses.